USA: win the war first
Realistic arguments:
Defeat 2 major enemies on 2 fronts
War didn’t turn in favor of Allies until late 1942 with El
Alamein and Stalingrad
“beyond belief”: accounts out of Europe must have been
exaggerated!
We’ve gone
over this so many times – when can we say that it was just a cop-out? --
Even though we have talked about this particular idea that the events of the
Holocaust were leaking to the West, you still have to look at it in historical
context. The time during which this
“beyond belief” idea was the supposition of those in power to effect change has
not altered. It just seems like it’s
gone through all the years of the war; in reality, we’ve just mentioned it in
regard to one basic timeframe.
FDR didn’t want to fight a “Jewish war”
Much American antisemitism in 1920’s
Intensified with the Depression
Need for scapegoats
1939: 41% of Americans believed Jews had too much
power
Of those, 10% favored Jewish deportation
50% would never vote for a Jewish presidential candidate
33% questioned Jewish patriotism
33% endorsed antisemitism
120+ antisemitic groups in USA in 1930’s
Give me your
thoughts on this if we apply it to today’s political climate. – I don’t think there was too much
discussion when Senator Lieberman ran as Al Gore’s vice-presidential candidate
in 2000. -- I’ve heard people say that
the Jews have too much power, that they maybe control the American media. But I don’t think the mainstream pays much attention
to that. – I think it would be more
accurate to substitute Muslims where we are discussing Jews. I think these statistics are much more
relevant in the post-9/11 era when we apply them to Muslims… -- That is an excellent point. Do you think a Muslim is an electable
candidate at the national level? --
Not at the present time. We’ll have to
see how terrorism takes shape in the next few years, as well as how the current
Israeli-Palestinian situation plays out.
April, 1939: public
opinion poll at time of Wagner-Rogers bill (proposed to admit 20,000 Jewish
children above quota)
42.3% believed antisemitism was result of negative Jewish traits
What does this
sound like? -- It sounds an awful
lot like the Americans bought into the ideas of racial superiority that the
Nazis were pushing. – Do you think that
much of the racism would have been in the South as opposed to the North? -- Maybe, but think about the economy – most
immigrants landed in America in the North, and therefore took over industrial
jobs from white northerners. In the
South, black labor was still cheap and there wouldn’t have been the need for
farmers to seek out alternative labor. –
I do think, however, that you raise a valid point about racism. When was the second great period of Ku Klux
Klan activity? -- In the
1920’s-‘30’s. – And we’ve
previously read about the American eugenics movement…
Similar poll later that year said that of all immigrants, Jews
and Italians made the worst citizens
Quakers and some other groups were in favor of the bill
Bill died in committee (FDR
stamped it – file: no action)
Later, British refugee children were admitted
American Jewry attempted to raise consciousness, but only
constituted 3% of the population
And since
they weren’t looked upon favorably by most of society, who would listen to them
anyway?
Bombing Auschwitz in 1944 was dangerous – arguments against
action:
Anti-aircraft activity around Osweicim
Railroads could have been rebuilt easily
Thousands of inmates would have been killed
Planes were needed elsewhere
A couple of
thoughts here: if they were afraid to
fly over the camp, then why are there reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz? And in regard to the planes being needed
elsewhere, we’ve mentioned the tremendous resources Hitler applied to the
Holocaust when still attempting to win the war. – But, even though Hitler was fighting a two-front war, like
the Americans, he was basically fighting in his own backyard. The US was on two different sides of the
world. So maybe they really couldn’t
spare the planes. – But planes were bombing close to Auschwitz; it would
not have been difficult to make a bombing run near the camp.
FDR wanted to win the war
Jewish question was a very minor part of the big picture
I think I can
relate to this – if the war is lost, much worse will happen to even more
people.
FDR had fought against isolationism
Had also fought domestic antisemitism
Had Jews in his cabinet, Jewish friends
Major
questions to above policies:
US refugee policy was terrible
Breckenridge Long, asst. Sec. of State, did all he could to
stymie immigration, particularly Jews
Antisemitic tendencies, right-wing leanings
Perhaps this is
where the true blame should lie, with some of Roosevelt’s underlings.
War Refugee Board:
formed February 1944
Saved thousands of lives
1943 Bermuda Conference
US and UK met to discuss Jewish problem
The Holocaust was “beyond belief”
Deliberately misunderstood and swept underfoot
A lack of
imagination as to the scope of the problem, coupled with a lack of creativity
in solving it meant that no action was the best alternative.
FDR could have taken a risk in “the Jewish War”
Took risks in other places
But again, we
have to look at public opinion. – Yeah,
but how often does the government do things and we find out about it years
later. The media wasn’t the same back
then. The public didn’t know every
speck of dirt on politicians. – They
certainly weren’t telling everyone, “Hey – we’re building a bomb!”
American Jewry could have done more
Lack of unity
Petty squabbles and disputes
Lack of understanding/knowledge of magnitude
July/August – November, 1944:
150,000 gassed at Auschwitz
Bombing would have slowed or disrupted Final Solution
Eleanor Roosevelt pushed humanitarianism beyond policy,
bureaucracy
Why didn’t FDR?
At the
conclusion of the discussion we debriefed on the material we’d covered. I am continually impressed by the
willingness of students to participate with passion on this topic. The comments from students can be attributed
to many different people. Even quiet
kids have at times been spurred to voice opinions or concerns. I feel good that I am able to reach them
with not only a subject that interests them, but also one that definitely has
relevance to their citizenship, compassion, and accountability toward their
fellow man.
After somewhat
abusing the Americans on their lack of action against the Nazi persecutions of
Europe’s Jews, today it was the Catholics’ turn. In fairness, I try to always preface this discussion with
somewhat of a disclaimer: The Church
was in Europe, it is the largest Christian faction in Europe, and regardless of
one’s brand of Christianity (or religion altogether), the pope is still
recognized as a major world leader as well as a pillar of morality. For these reasons, and due to the
disjointedness of the various Protestant faiths, the Vatican gets the bulk of
the blame. Students generally take this
well, but I am always sensitive to the plight of the Catholic students – you
never know how people will react. And
of course, one has to assume that a fair percentage of any class will be
unchurched, so that is always a pothole against which to guard.
No declaration on behalf of Jews
As cardinal, he was Vatican envoy to Berlin and had negotiated a
Concordant with Hitler in 1933 – major diplomatic victory for Nazis
Why didn’t
the Nazis just crush the Church like the Soviets did? Why weren’t they atheists? – How did Hitler come to power? -- His party was elected popularly, after forming a coalition
and then he was appointed. Oh, so at
first his power base was the people, and so early on he didn’t want to risk
upsetting that when things were just getting going.
Vichy Laws of 1940 (France)
No protest; in fact, endorsement
Ante Pavolic, Croatian strongman and hater of Jews and gypsies
Received as a guest of the Vatican
Nov. 1942: joint
US/British condemnation of Nazis
Pius XII made no statement
In 1937, Pius XI issued an encyclical condemning Nazi racism;
some evidence he was going to issue another condemning Nazi treatment of the
Jews
Oct. 1943: Jews of Rome
(1,035) rounded up and deported
Pope made no statement
Let’s take a
look at some of the history behind this.
What do you think is going on here?
-- I think he was a coward and he didn’t want to risk losing his
power. – Well, what power did he really
have? We’re a long way past the times
when the popes had armies or controlled large amounts of land. I think he might have been fearful that the
Nazis or the Fascists would invade the Vatican, and then he would have no
chance to ever have a voice. –
That’s not a bad point; the popes through history have always feared that the
Holy Roman Emperors would invade Rome and take over the Vatican. – Then he would have just been a puppet
ruler. The Nazis could have told him
anything to say and people would have believed it. – So then why didn’t they do that?? -- Because there were some, maybe even Protestants, who would
have stepped up against it. Plus, you
can’t assume that the Catholics of Europe would appreciate their leader being
intimidated. Hitler had the allegiance
of the army, but that was over the flag, not God. I think the people would have rallied around the pope. – So I’m back to why Pius XII didn’t feel
like he could do anything to stop the deportations… -- Maybe he didn’t want to be seen as making alliances with the
English and the Americans – that would have split the Germans and maybe caused
more problems. – Let’s look on,
then, and see where this leads us…
Interests of church took precedence over anything
Where have we
just recently seen this? -- When we
looked at FDR and the idea of “win the war first”.
After the war, certain elements in the Vatican helped Nazis
escape to South America, etc.
Leading Catholic Nazis, including Hitler, were never condemned
or excommunicated
So where does
this say that God was in the Holocaust?
This kind of gives those who think the Jews should be eternally punished
as Christ killers some ammunition…
Defense
of papal actions
German and Austrian Catholics:
would have undermined unity and morale if Pius had chosen sides in the
issue
USSR was atheistic; Catholics fighting atheists
So was this like
a crusade, with the destruction of the Jews as the byproduct? Sound familiar?
Pius XII tried to soften some decrees against Jews in non-German
lands
Many individual Catholics (nuns, priests, citizens) aided Jews,
sometimes even in convents and monasteries
This is very
positive, and we’ll look at the rescuers in a second.
Aid to Italian Jews
How much power did the Church have?
Could Pius truly have influenced the world??
Vatican
archives on these times won’t be opened until well into the 21st
Century.
Why do you think
this is not going to happen for so long?
-- So everyone who was involved will be dead, and all the people with
dirty hands won’t have to own up to anything.